What do pesticides, fatigue, autoimmune disease, CBD oil, and bees have in common? A lot more than you think.
In this podcast, I am talking to Maryam Henein, who has been dubbed the Erin Brockovich of the bee world. She is an investigative journalist, activist, functional medicine coach, filmmaker (she directed the documentary “Vanishing of the Bees”), and entrepreneur.
In this podcast, she shares her incredible health story and how she has managed to heal herself from autoimmune disease and fibromyalgia, as well as a traumatic accident. She’ll talk about the keys to her recovery, why she has become so incredibly passionate about bees, and why CBD oil changed her life.
In this podcast, you’ll learn:
- How Maryam developed lupus and fibromyalgia
- The truth about the merger of Bayer and Monsanto (what it means to you)
- The importance of bees in human health
- How big pharma is developing synthetic CBD (and why its inferior to real CBD)
- The biggest keys to Maryam’s recovery from lupus and fibromyalgia
- Maryam’s unique liposomal CBD oil blend (you can check it out here)
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Pesticides, Fatigue, Autoimmune Disease, CBD oil, and the Dying of the Bees with Maryam Henein – Transcript
Ari Whitten: Hi everyone, this is Ari Whitten, and welcome back to The Energy Blueprint Podcast. Today I have with me Maryam Henein, who has been dubbed the Erin Brockovich of the bee world. She is an investigative journalist, activist, functional medicine coach, filmmaker, and entrepreneur. She’s also the director of the documentary Vanishing of the Bees, which is narrated by Ellen Page, and today we have in store a very, very interesting conversation covering a pretty broad range of topics, from autoimmune disease, to Bayer and Monsanto and the recent merger, to CBD oil, and we’re gonna get into a whole bunch of things, and I think this is gonna turn out to be a very interesting conversation. Without any further ado, welcome, Maryam. It’s a pleasure to have you on.
Maryam Henein: Thank you, Ari. It’s a pleasure to be here.
Maryam’s health story
Ari Whitten: Yeah. I would love to get started by just asking you to talk a bit about your story, and how you became interested in health, and how that also translated into an interest and a passion for bees.
Maryam Henein: I would say that upon arriving to Los Angeles from Montreal, shortly thereafter I was in a crosswalk, and I was hit by a Ford Explorer at 30 miles an hour, and dragged across the cement, and had a rude awakening to western medicine, having come from Canada where it’s like air. You know, social system, we grew up with healthcare, and so having broken several bones, including my left femur, where I had a 14-inch metal rod put in my leg and was not even given physiotherapy.
My body kind of exploded after that because of PTSD, although they did not tell me that my body would be in fight or flight, and so that everything that happened thereafter, I kind of used it as an initiation to empower myself, and then that’s what I would do in my spare time, kind of studying nutrition. Later on had candida, and later on found out that I was allergic to gluten, and had an ovarian … a grapefruit-sized cyst that I had to remove, so one thing … Have insomnia, one thing after the other, and then I also fought to remove this 14-inch metal rod, which you don’t usually do, that was in the left femur bone.
Then after that, having a near-death experience, I really was firm on wanting to give back and do something that’s greater than me. I was, at the time, freelancing for Hollywood Reporter, penthouse, [inaudible] and Hollywood, and a little bit of spirituality. I then produced a piece on the Exxon Valdez oil spill, and then decided I wanted to do my own project, and then shortly thereafter, the bees literally and figuratively flew into my life, and have stuck.
Ari Whitten: Let’s go into the health aspect of things a little deeper.
Maryam Henein: Yeah.
Ari Whitten: You had an autoimmune disease. Is that correct? What autoimmune disease did you have?
Maryam Henein: I wanna just put it in context, that after making the film, I was ironically at an environmental film festival in the Dominican Republic, and I thought they were using a leaf blower, and I went to tell them to shut up, turn it off, and they were in between two buildings, and they were fumigating, so shortly thereafter I was diagnosed with lupus and fibromyalgia.
Ari Whitten: So you were exposed to those pesticides, or was it pesticides, herbicides?
Maryam Henein: I think it was a fumigant because they were trying to get rid of mosquitoes, but I could never confirm what it was. They didn’t even know why I was yelling and so alarmed, because he turned around and was wearing a mask and no other protection, and it was windy, and I breathed in a whole bunch of chemicals, and I went to see my doctor and a rheumatologist, thinking it was my thyroid, because I lost all strength and I’m pretty physical, active person, and when I also told them, “Could it be chemical body burden?” They gave me a blank stare and did not know what I was talking about, and gave me prednisone and an SSRI, and just told me my body was attacking itself. See you later.
Ari Whitten: Wow. You then had kind of a journey into exploring the whole health realm, and really researching things and figuring out ways to improve your own health and treat your autoimmune disease that obviously was not being treated very well by your doctors. What was that all about? What was that journey like, and what did you discover?
Maryam Henein: Well, yeah, I was very determined to reverse it. I think at first I didn’t even think I could reverse it, because when you’re telling a human being your body is attacking itself, and when you realize that we are run by our subconscious 95%, so a belief like that is so negative and has such an impact, so first realizing that I could reverse myself. There’s a practitioner, [Cory], who … I forget her last name right now, that reversed her autoimmune, so planting the seed, and it took six years, and I was doing everything under the sun. My ANA levels were at 640, and I think that range is between zero to 40, zero to 60, I’m not sure.
Despite everything, I really think it was a variety of things together, and in my case, because I did have chemicals, coffee enemas were very much a component of detoxing. I also had Epstein–Barr, and also discovered along my journey that many people who have EBV, as you know, having EBV, that it can, having been exposed, that it can turn into an autoimmune, it can hide in the organs, so I also was introduced to Medical Medium, and tried a variety of things. I also took a metabolomics test that we offer on HoneyColony, which we have about 5,000 metabolites, and you can identify what’s deficient in the Krebs cycle, what’s not happening in the ATP production of energy, and really pinpoint the deficiencies.
Also, having studied metabolomics, I learned to look at disease, to kind of distill it in a very simple manner, that one, we are either being exposed to so many chemicals, whether it’s in a food or environment, and the body doesn’t have the ability to heal because there’s more negative coming at you, and two, that the body is not able to absorb the nutrients either because you have bad diet, a crap diet, or because there’s malabsorption of some sort, and you’re not being able to absorb the proper nutrients, because the body does wanna heal, and the body is amazing, and we have to help it along, as you know.
Ari Whitten: Yeah, absolutely. Were you successful in getting your health back?
Maryam Henein: Yes. After six years, and taking this metabolomics test, and doing a variety of things that include CBD, silver, molecular hydrogen, just an array of things that I was able to bring them back to normal. I still have multiple chemical sensitivity, and so I joke that I’ve become an environmental indicator like the honeybees, but in reality, it’s true. I have also been exposed in my upbringing to, like many of us, antibiotics given like candy, and also mold, and now that I’m a functional medicine coach and I work with others, and as an investigative look at connecting the dots, as I’m sure you do too, you see these patterns over and over again.
It’s very common for the person to have their gut obliterated due to antibiotics, or being exposed to mold or exposed to some type of toxin, and so also in 2018 really excited about the cutting edge information that’s exploring the gut-brain access, and it all starts in the gut, and some of these antibiotics will kill these beneficial strains forever. It’s hard to get them back, and we see with people who have autoimmune that they oftentimes don’t have a good blend of positive bacteria. I think all that to say that I am sensitive, but given … It’s like, oh, you’re 45, you’ve been hit by a Ford Explorer and dragged 50 feet, you’ve been exposed to chemicals not once, but three times in Central or South America, and you’ve reversed your autoimmune, so I would like to stand to inspire others as to what is possible when they take health into their own hands.
Ari Whitten: Yeah, absolutely. Beautifully said. How did that then translate into an interest in bees? Where do bees come into it?
Maryam Henein: The bees happened after the near-death experience, and George Langworthy, who’s the co-director on the film, and I became friends, and decided that we wanted to collaborate, and he told me that he thought that this would make a good documentary, so I spent half an hour one afternoon, and I was really taken by the fact that the bees are a female society. They represent the sacred feminine, and with colony collapse disorder, you see that the bees will abandon the babies and the queen in a very short amount of time, and I saw that as a direct parallel to us abandoning Mother Earth, and I really like the fact that they work for the greater good.
As a sister, someone who loves women, who wants to support women, it just resonated with me, and literally, a couple of days later, the bees flew into my life, and I’ve had these magical run-ins with bees, like driving down La Cienaga, which is a busy street in Los Angeles, and coming across a swarm next to the Beverly Center. Just one thing after the other, and just I am so honored to be in service and to be able to share the message, and I kid that all roads can lead to bee and I can connect it all to the honeybees, because they can teach us so much about community, about our health, they’re environmental indicators, they’re ancient creatures, and I think it’s an important time. It’s been 10 years since colony collapse disorder was first reported on, and there’s still people today that don’t know that honeybees pollinate one in three bites of the food that we eat.
The importance of bees for human health
Ari Whitten: Yeah, actually, that’s a good segue. I wanna ask you to maybe step back a bit and place this in context, because there’s probably some portion of listeners who are like, you know, “Bees? Why the hell is this lady talking about bees?”
Maryam Henein: Yeah, so bees-
Ari Whitten: Why are bees so important? Why should I care about bees?
Maryam Henein: There are many pollinators and we should care about them all, but selfishly honeybees, European honeybees, are the most valuable to us because they pollinate one in every three bites of the food we eat, so they literally provide you with food. They pollinate everything from avocados to zucchinis, billions of dollars in the United States, and what we do in our modern agriculture, which I think is the root of many of our issues, is that we take bees from monoculture to monoculture, and they pollinate the food to give you blueberries, to give you cherries, to give you almonds, so they are very important, but now, 10 years later …
Last year was the 10 year anniversary, also coinciding with Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring, and she was very instrumental in creating the Environmental Protection Agency in the ’70s. Here we are 50 years later, where she was fighting to ban DDT. These systemic pesticides that are the root of colony collapse disorder, made by Bayer, Syngenta, are responsible for, like I said, the core of colony collapse disorder. Well, they’re being compared to DDT, except they’re said to be five to 10,000 times more toxic.
Now, these chemicals, these systemic pesticides, it was sold as they were gonna be safer because the organophosphates you spray on top, but these chemicals are more insidious because they’re entrenched in the seed, in the soil, or entrenched on the seed, so the poison becomes part of the plant, so the bees take the pollen and the nectar back to the hive, and it affects the future generations, so I tell people that 10 years later, we’re the bees. We’re the ones who are being exposed to an increasingly toxic world. If the bees are being affected and they pollinate, well, we eat this stuff.
Today, it’s not only impacting honeybees, it’s impacting all the pollinators. Bats, other bees, birds, hummingbirds, bats, aquatic life. It’s messing up the coral reef, it’s in our water, it’s in our blood. It’s the most common pesticide in the entire world, not to be confused with Monsanto’s Roundup, which is the most popular herbicide.
Ari Whitten: You mentioned this in passing a little bit, but this kind of segues into an interest in Monsanto and various chemicals. We have this colony collapse disorder with the bees that are … It’s very damaging for the planet, for the ecosystem, and for humans. Obviously very damaging for bees, but then there was this whole colony collapse disorder publicity, and a search for what’s responsible for that. Now, I know that I watched quite a bit of videos on this five, 10 years ago, but what have been the biggest advancements in the last maybe five years around our understanding of what causes colony collapse disorder?
Maryam Henein: Well, my movie, Vanishing of the Bees, is all about that, and like I was saying, the core is systemic pesticides, that are not organophosphates, that become part of the plant, and that also stay into the soil, so the soil is the planet’s biome, and we’re effing up the biome because if these chemicals take 18 years to degrade, and their metabolites are more dangerous than the parent compounds, and so yes, you can attribute lack of diversity, the fact that there are monocultures, the fact that there are viruses, but it’s just like-
Ari Whitten: I saw some stuff around viruses, I saw some theories around electromagnetic fields, and EMFs, and things like that. You think it’s mainly about the pesticides.
Maryam Henein: Yeah, I know, after 800 peer-reviewed studies. When I started making the movie, there wasn’t a lot of information. There are many bee yards next to cell towers. I’m not downplaying EMFs. Bees communicate in a different frequency. It’s a perfect storm, right? We’re living in a perfect storm, and once you take the deep dive down the rabbit hole and you look at things from a functional medicine point of view, you realize that all these variables affect one another, but at the core, something is rattling our immune system or the honeybees immune system, so you would think that’s it’s a virus, just like with an AIDs patient who succumbs to pneumonia, but it’s their immune system, because viruses are millions of years old. We have been living with viruses forever, and we know how to fight viruses. Innately, they are in us. As you know, they coexist with other viruses oftentimes, and so no, that’s not what’s taking the bees down. It’s the fact that our immune system is rattled.
How pesticide companies (Bayer and Monsanto) are trying to fool the public
Ari Whitten: So that’s kind of where most of the science has coalesced on the subject of chemicals, and so that segues kind of I think very naturally into an interest in these pesticides, chemicals, Monsanto, the companies that are producing these chemicals, so can you talk about how some of your interest started to shift towards that, and I know there was also a recent merger between Bayer and Monsanto, so I’ll let you kind of play with those topics how you wanna introduce them.
Maryam Henein: Well, when we started covering the bees and why, it was very much a mystery. I think for George, he was attracted to the mystery aspect, and so we kind of went along, not knowing even that, wow, bees are trucked on semis from state to state, and then found beekeepers, because we traveled to France, to Italy, to Germany, all over UK, and when you find beekeepers in different parts of the world coming to the same conclusions. These are the guys that are in the fields. It’s empirical evidence, and for me, it serves us a lot.
Again, there weren’t all those studies. Bayer is the maker of systemic pesticides, along with Syngenta, and they still to this day deny the fact that it harms honeybees, despite all the studies. As we started filming, it took five years to make this movie, just our eyes were opened, so I was coming at it from a Canadian who had a rude awakening to Western medicine in this country of how we treat people, and then coming at it of realizing, wow, our food supply is being poisoned, and food is thy medicine, and then wanting to empower people, and thinking, you know, at first, “Oh, I’ll move onto another project as far as the bees goes,” and they stuck, pun intended, and created HoneyColony, which is an online magazine and marketplace that kind of emulates the bees in like we’re gonna find the best sources of information, we’re gonna find the best sources of solutions, and we’re gonna empower you. The tagline is “Where the hive decides what’s healthy”, instead of …
You know, we’re drowning in misinformation. People don’t know what to eat today. They don’t necessarily see things from a functional medicine point of view. Someone was telling me the other day that they went to their doctor, and they had a few complaints, and the doctor literally said, “I only treat one body part at a time.” Yeah, mofo, because you compartmentalize things. You don’t see things in holistic manner, you don’t look for the root. It’s so myopic when you find out that doctors get four hours of nutrition schooling.
I mean, I was seeing a client the other day that had SIBO, and her integrative medical doctor put her on a diet of grains, like oatmeal, barley, and I was like, no, no, no, no. No. I’m like, “How’s that working out for you?” No. She wasn’t getting better. I think there’s a lot of disinformation, and we really need to treat ourselves as the individual and eat for ourselves, but the common ground is eat clean. I’m not gonna shame you for being a vegan if I eat meat from happy animals. It depends what condition you’re eating for, and you’re who you are, and your biome, and it’s not one size fits all.
Ari Whitten: I wanna dig into that a bit more, but first let’s dig into this merger of Bayer and Monsanto, and can you talk a bit about what that means and why those two companies have merged?
Maryam Henein: Sure. I might bring up an article to refer to that I wrote in 2016. The merger was first announced, talks of the merger, and why so.
Now, it was predicted back then that Monsanto, by analysts, by myself, by others, that Monsanto would shed its name so that future generations would never know because it’s gained such … You know, everyone, like I say, everyone loves to hate Monsanto, and they have such a negative rep that by joining forces, they’re really monopolizing the food supply, the production of conventional food, and yeah, years from now, the future generations will not know that Monsanto has wreaked havoc, that their history, Bayer’s history that stems from Second World War, of creating chemicals to kill people, and we had all this kind of leftover chemicals, and then we started to wage war against the bugs, so this is like a $63 billion merger, and the ethics of it are definitely questionable. Their history is questionable, but it’s like I gave the example of like Blackwater changed its name, and so I believe also the future is now zombies are amongst us, and the critical thinking is an all time low. I personally believe it’s because of the food.
Ari Whitten: Sorry. Zombies are amongst us. You’ll have to explain what you mean by that.
Maryam Henein: I think that people are getting dumber by the day. I think that critical thinking is at an all time low. I understand I’m making generalizations. That the food that you eat, definitely my consciousness … I’ve been on a spiritual path, and it’s a journey, but if I look at my consciousness since I’ve changed the foods that I eat, it’s expanded, and I think that people are not asking the right questions, and that these chemicals have been shown to rob us of IQ points, so although it sounds cute to say people are getting dumber by the day, it’s also actual, and we see it around us, that people are not … It’s a divide and conquer kind of system, and people are not asking the right questions, and people aren’t sure about their emotions, and there’s just a lot of disinformation, and you’ll have to take things into your own hands.
A lot of these systems today … Back then when I was making the film, I was saying all these systems have to collapse because they’re archaic and they’re not working. Whether it’s the bank system, the school system, the health system. They’re all broken down, and these are opportunities for a new way of being, a new paradigm. I hope that clarifies it. I do feel like there are zombies that are just checked out.
Ari Whitten: I think this point of Monsanto shedding its name is an important point, and to be honest, I think any of us in their shoes probably would do exactly that. If there was all this negative press coming out around Monsanto, and you are a business that is trying to keep doing what you’re doing, you know, and if you actually believe in what you’re doing and think it’s a good thing, or you’re just interested in money … I don’t know what the leaders of Monsanto actually believe, but in that scenario it’s easy to say, “Hey, let’s get rid of our name, and just kind of do this quietly, and then turn into Bayer, and nobody will notice, and then we can just carry on doing what we’re doing, and Monsanto doesn’t exist anymore.”
Maryam Henein: Hell yeah.
Ari Whitten: Yeah, so-
Maryam Henein: I have a quote from the executive director of Center for Food Safety, a nonprofit that I’ve worked with over the years and support. @Given the international rejection of GMOs and Monsanto’s brand name being in shambles, it’s not surprising that Bayer has decided to drop the name altogether. However, Bayer should assume that just by dropping the name, they have dropped the liability. The worldwide food and environmental movements know that Bayer is now the new Monsanto.”
Ari Whitten: Yeah. Yeah, I think highly conscious people who are paying attention to this topic certainly will be aware of this, and they won’t miss a beat, but I think for the general public, they’re used to hearing things about Monsanto and now they’re gonna stop hearing things about Monsanto, and so there will be a bit of a gap. I think that this strategy will work for Monsanto’s or Bayer’s advantage to a large degree, in terms of avoiding negative public perception. Very interesting stuff.
The best way to eat according to Maryam
I wanna jump back to diet, because you made some remarks about nutrition. Just out of curiosity, what kinds of diets do you generally recommend, and it sounds like you have different recommendations for different conditions, so can you give kind of a broad overview of what your preferences are, just kind of out of my own curiosity here?
Maryam Henein: Well, for me, I am adopting kind of ketogenic diet, and certainly over the years have tried so many, so it’s more a way of life, a lifestyle. However, if I’m dealing with someone and trying to help them, I have a questionnaire, so I kind of see what they’re leaning towards, like if they like fatty foods. I do look at their blood type, even though I’ve had my vegan friends tell me that it’s BS. I think we just kind of decide that diet is very individual. Also, having studied blue zones and longevity last year, and contributed just very little to the nine-part … Oops. I just broke my glasses. To the nine-part Human Longevity Project. I don’t know if you’re familiar with Jason Prall’s work.
Ari Whitten: Yeah. I was actually one of the experts featured in that.
Maryam Henein: Oh, okay. Great. You realize that the different blue zones eat differently, and it’s, again, according to your biome. For me, I really like … Well, one, we can decide that … I believe grains or gluten, dairy, anything that’s conventional. Raw would be different, and then definitely sugar, to kind of ixnay those if you have someone that’s rebuilding their gut. There is, as you know, the thought that glyphosate is the real problem behind breads, when you look at the ancient cultures and the fact that they did eat grain, but I would think that it’s because it’s highly hybridized, and to me, the most important thing is eating clean, eating local if you can, eating sparingly, so I’m not dissing, for instance, meat, but it has to come from happy animals, and no antibiotics, no hormones.
Yeah, I’m of the belief that the food needs to be clean and local, and it’s not normal to ship things around, and having studied … You know, they put a lot of emphasis in The Human Longevity Project on the importance of the biome and the individuality of the biome.
Maryam’s unique CBD oil blend for health and well-being
Ari Whitten: Yeah. Very cool. Final topic that I have for you is CBD, which is I know one of your other big interests and passions, and I also understand from skim-reading your book prior to this interview that it was one of the things that was a big part of your recovery from the autoimmune disease. Can you talk about your interest in that, and I know that you also sell CBD now, so talk a bit about how you got into the CBD world.
Maryam Henein: Because of HoneyColony, always looking for kind of cutting-edge, simply transformative solutions, and then also everything that we offer, I vet, I use, so was introduced to CBD, and then learned that we have a cannabinoid system that regulates things like mood and homeostasis, and that we are unbalanced, so having experienced benefits for myself, specifically in the realm of sleep, and then wanted to create a formula which I think is like no other, because it incorporates Chinese herbs and also looks at … Basically went to our master herbalist that I now work with, [Eliza Moriarty], and said that I wanna address autoimmune conditions, I wanna address biofilm, and so we created this beautiful formula, not knowing the hell that I would experience because I sell a formula that actually works.
If I was selling a cheap CBD isolate, I would have no problems doing it on Amazon, and there are people who sell on, that I know, on PayPal. In January 27, now imagine, as an entrepreneur, you work your booty off, it’s been six years, you have so much sacrifice that you put in, and you’re finally seeing the rewards of all your work, and so I reference 2017 to the year of playing Whac-A-Mole. Imagine getting shut down by PayPal, then Square, then Stripe, then QuickBooks. Every time you’re shut down, you literally do not have a way to make money. Very threatening to your first chakra survival skills.
Not only get shut down, then we found a high-risk processor that ended up defrauding us, so we got robbed, and I was also found out that I was a victim of identity theft, because [inaudible]. There was a company opened up in the UK, and then we lost so much revenue from being shut down that we looked for a capital, and the person who was my CFO at the time, who is no longer with us, found high-risk cash advance places that are crazy, so they were taking out $1,500 a day, five days a week, from our account.
Meanwhile, I have customers, sick customers, that waited, imagine, from July, and got their medicine in January, and they did go and try, in some cases, other brands, only to say, “Didn’t work. Please, when can I get yours?” I think it’s a real testament of my tenacity, of the value that we’re offering, quality, because cannabis is a bioaccumulator, and there’s a lot of people who are making a very cheap CBD isolate. They literally use the cannabis plant to clean the soil in Chernobyl. I mean, cannabis is a beautiful, amazing plant. You do not, whether you’re sick or not, want to take a formula.
Also, there’s a lot of brands out there that are putting CBD in gummy bears and CBD in kombucha. CBD will degrade 80 to 90% by the time it gets into your liver, so that’s just all marketing BS, which is why we offer a liposomal. Unless you’re taking it rectally or liposomal, it’s not gonna get to your bloodstream. Really, there are a lot of people who sell CBD, but I don’t think they’re connoisseurs or looking at the science or putting love into it, they just wanna make money.
Despite the odds, and despite being robbed and defrauded and banned … I mean, like, why would a two-year-old video that I did about our superior CBD be banned? I even asked a cannabis lawyer. No reason. Now, it just so happens that the main company that’s bringing their fake CBD to market with FDA approval, it’s called GW, they just happen to be partnered with Bayer. I just happen to share [inaudible] in common with Bayer Crop Science, and so I cannot prove anything, but I can just say that I have a medicine that works, and that it’s been quite the challenge, and I’m more galvanized than ever because I’ve been speaking to customers, whether they have a broken neck, or they’re a veteran with PTSD, or insomnia. This helps across the board because we have CB1 and CB2 receptors all over the body, so I hope that answers.
Ari Whitten: Yeah, it does. I wanna clarify a few things.
Maryam Henein: Yes, please.
Synthetic CBD oil and CBD isolates – why they are inferior for health benefits
Ari Whitten: You mentioned fake CBD. First of all, what is fake CBD?
Maryam Henein: Okay, so when I say fake CBD, big pharma loves single molecules, so they have synthesized a CBD. There is other ingredients that I don’t know what it is, and so it’s a faux, fake. It’s not like getting the plant. When it comes to cannabis, you have the entourage effect. There is all these terpenes, and there’s different cannabinoids, and of course they work together in synergy. I don’t think that you can duplicate nature. When you think that the fake CBD is about to become a Schedule 2, it’s a Schedule 2, but the real plant is a Schedule 1. What the F, really? How is it that the real plant …
So on one hand they have created it to be up there with no medicinal properties, up there with heroin, and on the other hand, the government has also patented CBD as a neuroprotective antioxidant plant. They obviously recognize the benefits, and this is gonna be very lucrative. You can get on the big pharma and spend, like, 3K a month, or you can buy a bottle of high-end CBD. I mean, ours costs less than a hundred. What do you want?
Also you’re seeing in the mainstream that they’re disseminating information, like stating that CBD has only been proven to be effective on epilepsy. No, that’s because the first medication that’s coming to market is targeting epilepsy. There’s been a myriad of studies to show across the board, and I have the empirical evidence through speaking to customers over the past six months.
Ari Whitten: Yeah, I’ve certainly seen dozens of studies on the subject for a wide range of different conditions. There’s also been something that more research is needed on, but there’s some research on something called clinical endocannabinoid deficiency, which is linked with fibromyalgia and a number of other conditions, migraines and a few other things. Just to clarify this point a little bit more, what you’re calling fake CBD, is that just the pure, isolated CBD molecule that is identical to the CBD that is from the plant, it’s just synthesized in a lab, or is it chemically not identical?
Maryam Henein: Honestly, if you go to Epidiolex, it says a purified cannabinoid, so it’s very fuzzy.
Ari Whitten: Do you know whether it’s actually CBD?
Maryam Henein: Well, it’s not actual CBD because they had to patent it, so they had to change … We know that with big pharma, they take single molecules and synthesize them.
Ari Whitten: Okay.
Maryam Henein: The actual ratio or what … You know, I tried to find what other ingredients are in this formula, and we also have synthesized THC coming out on the market, so it’s the same thing where that’s not a Schedule 1, but the real plant is. Just the hypocrisy.
Ari Whitten: Yeah, sorry, I was gonna say I know that the pharmaceutical companies have been in the process of developing several pharmaceutical drugs that are similar to THC as well.
Maryam Henein: Yes, but cannabis is a weed. There’s no shortage of being able to grow it, and so why mess with a good thing? So you can make money, because it’s gonna be super lucrative, and they’re comparing it to the NFL. You know, billions and billions by 2020, and also, it works. It helps. It’s so beautiful to hear customers that are finding relief after years, you know, even getting off of opiates and finding that they can get off or take a lesser amount by taking more formula.
Ari Whitten: Yeah. One more point I wanna clarify, which is you also mentioned CBD isolate from other companies, and kind of you’re drawing a distinction between sort of I think what you called cheap CBD isolate versus your product, so what exactly is that distinction?
Maryam Henein: There’s a whole spectrum, so using, like I mentioned, more of the terpenes. Unfortunately, because of the regulations, we are forced to make ours from industrialized hemp with less than .3 THC, so when you have a whole spectrum, you allow for the entourage effect. From my research and speaking to our formulator, when you’re taking this isolate, it doesn’t allow for the other terpenes, and I also found out that some of the merchant processors, they will institute regulations that are even stricter than the FDA. For instance, I had one merchant processor that said, “Oh, I’ll take your CBD if it has zero THC,” so in asking our formulator, she said, “Well, that’s likely an isolate.” Most of the isolates, you know, it’s easy to get them from China or India, which, chances are, they have heavy metals or pesticides.
I believe that in this country there is no regulation currently on if you’re getting … Our CBD is from Germany, but I don’t know what the regulations are set as far as spraying or chemicals. I think that marijuana is just starting, the cannabis plant for marijuana, is just starting to have regulations when it comes to pesticide spray, because you can go into a dispensary, and I find it just an oxymoron. Like, oh, are you using chemicals on that? I’d like some organic bud, and they don’t know. Why would you wanna imbibe any chemicals if you’re getting treated for something? Even if you’re healthy. Chemical body burden is so underestimated, I believe. I think that you are increasingly, like I said, being exposed to chemicals.
Ari Whitten: One last distinction, which is on your … I looked at your website. On the sales page, you have 10 times higher bioavailability compared to other THCs, and I know you mentioned a few minutes ago that I think you said 70 or 80% of CBD that is-
Maryam Henein: Degrades.
Ari Whitten: Normal CBD that’s orally ingested doesn’t make it to the bloodstream, so yours you’re saying has 10 times higher bioavailability. What is the reason for that, and is there evidence to support that claim?
Maryam Henein: Well, I’m not an expert as far as liposomal, but it’s encapsulated in like a bubble, so that if you’re taking it underneath your tongue, just like rectally, then it will go straight into the bloodstream, and people feel it right away. I don’t know if that’s a satisfactory response to what you-
Ari Whitten: Yeah, no, I mean, there’s definitely some science around the somal technologies. I was just wanting you to explain to the listeners what exactly is the reason that your CBD is different than standard CBD that’s non-liposomal.
Maryam Henein: Yes, there are other liposomal formulas out there, just like, for instance, Quicksilver has a lot of liposomal, excellent products, whether it’s glutathione, or vitamin C, or theanine, and that it just is more effective because you actually are absorbing it, and it gets into the bloodstream, and like I mentioned, everyone and their mama is making CBD now, and I don’t believe, from a science point of view, if you’re putting CBD in kombucha or coffee, that it’s gonna get to you.
Ari Whitten: Gotcha. One last question, which is what particular kinds of health issues have you found, in terms of the feedback you’ve gotten from customers, have you found people are getting the best results for or from the CBD that they’re using from you?
Maryam Henein: Well, we have a story on HoneyColony, superior six stories of success across the board, so like I said, I have a lot of people who are taking it for insomnia. I have a lot of people who are on … I wrote an article on … You know, I was micro-dosing on Xanax for a long time. I mean, the average Xanax is 5 milligrams. I was taking .25 because I felt so much guilt, but I needed to sleep for a long time, and then accidentally was testing CBD, not our formula, and saw that, in smaller quantities, CBD will be energizing, and in larger quantities, it will be more soothing. I see a lot of results with …
Well, with our formula, we have things like teasel root, white peony, schisandra, so it’s very good for combating inflammation and biofilm. I’ve seen people that have Lyme that are finding benefits from superior CBD oil, and like I said, I have not seen yet any other formula that incorporates Chinese medicine and is specific for autoimmune sufferers, having had an autoimmune condition myself.
Ari Whitten: So, Maryam, thank you so much, this has been a pleasure, to speak with you and this has been a fascinating interview. Where can people go to find out more about what you do? I think it is honeycolony.com is your main site and is that for CBD. Kind of explain your two sites – You have two websites one is for lots of info and one CBD specifically. Is that correct?
Maryam Henein: Yeah. So the magazine and the marketplace is honeycolony.com where we offer other solutions like molecular hydrogen silver. And then, to get the links to the CBD, you can go the “links” part of the podcast page (see below). That is where you can find me and thank you for this opportunity I am in gratitude
Ari Whitten: Wonderful. Alright take care, Maryam.
Maryam Henein: Thank you.
Pesticides, Fatigue, Autoimmune Disease, CBD oil, and the Dying of the Bees with Maryam Henein – Show Notes
Maryam’s health story (1:00)
The importance of bees to human health (11:46)
How pesticide companies (Bayer and Monsanto) are trying to fool the public (17:39)
The best way to eat according to Maryam (26:43)
Maryam’s unique CBD oil blend for health and well-being (29:35)
Fake CBD oil – why it is bad for you (34:54)
To learn more about the work Maryam does, go to her website honeycolony.com
To order Maryam’s special highly absorbably liposomal CBD, you can get it HERE.