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What Is Sound Healing?│How (Wholetones) Sound Healing Frequencies Affect Sleep, Fatigue, and Stress

What Is Sound Healing│How (Wholetones) Sound Healing Frequencies Affect Sleep, Fatigue, and Stress with Michael Tyrrell

Sounds. They are all around us. From the traffic noise in the streets, to the sound of the tumble dryer, to the music on the radio. But did you know, that sounds also affect your health and energy levels? Believe it or not, there’s a huge body of scientific evidence on the harmful effects of “noise pollution” on our health — which can damage everything from our sleep quality to our mood to our energy levels. And there are dozens of studies on the health benefits of music and sound therapies. So although most people don’t realize it, sound can and does have a HUGE impact on our health whether we’re aware of it or not.

Just think about it for a second. How do you feel when you walk past a construction site with a lot of hammering and sawing. Do you stay to enjoy the sounds? Most likely not. Then, how do you feel when your favorite song comes on the radio? Does it make you happy? Research is now showing that the sounds we experience do affect our health. In recent years, the concept of sound as medicine and the concept of “sound healing” have been skyrocketing in popularity. So what is sound healing? And how does it affect our health, energy, mood and wellbeing?

This week, I am talking to Michael Tyrrell, who is an author, musician, composer, and producer. He is the creator of Wholetones, a sound therapy program where he composed music that resonates with 7 different (and super powerful) sound healing frequencies. This program has helped thousands of people around the world release stress, sleep better, and overcome fatigue alongside a lot of other amazing benefits.

(Side note: I have had the Wholetones sound healing CD set for the past year, and I absolutely LOVE it. I use it when I work and when I’m in my sauna, and every time, it just transports me to a beautiful tranquil, yet vibrant and energetic state. I would absolutely recommend that you get the program for yourself. They also have a brand new sleep program which people are raving about, which you can get here. You can get 10% off on your purchase on the Wholetones products until the end of July. Use the code “ARI10” upon checkout.)

Michael has an absolutely fascinating story behind his discovery of “Whole Tones”, and I think you’re going to love this interview. We cover a lot of fascinating material, and the mix of him approaching things from a musician background and me from a science background makes for a fun conversation. Enjoy!

(If you want to earn more about the science on music therapy and sound healing check the article I wrote on the topic where I uncover 14 benefits of music therapy and sound healing.)

What we’ll cover in this podcast

  • How sound healing was used thousands of years ago
  • Are all sound frequencies good for you? (How different sound frequencies affect the body and how some can actually harm you)
  • The power of Wholetones (The 7 compositions that are tuned after 7 powerful sound healing frequencies)
  • One frequency (often used by orchestras) that disrupts circadian rhythm and sleep
  • The 7 Sound healing frequencies that promote healing (one is even said to reduce procrastination)
  • How certain frequencies cancel out other more harmful ones
  • How sound pollution harms your health (what the science says) and how sound can help you heal

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What Is Sound Healing?│How (Wholetones) Sound Healing Frequencies Affect Sleep, Fatigue, and Stress with Michael Tyrrell – Transcript

Ari Whitten: Hey guys, this is Ari Whitten, and welcome back to the Energy Blueprint Podcast. Today, I am here with Michael Tyrrell, and I’m actually going to read his bio. Normally, I don’t read the bio of my interviewees, I like to kind of summarize it. In this case, you have such a beautiful succinct bio that I think is worth reading. Michael is an author, visionary, musician, composer and producer. He exists to bring love, healing and motivation to a hurting world, and in turn, inspire others in our generation to do the same.

I love that. First of all, that’s beautiful. I love that you managed to condense your whole bio into just two sentences. Also I should say that I have Wholetones, his work, and it’s Wholetones, The Healing Frequency Music Project. I absolutely love this. I listen to it all the time when I’m working and when I’m in my sauna. I’m a fan of his work, today’s guest’s work as well. Welcome Michael! Thank you so much for joining me.

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah, that’s honor Ari, I’ve been looking forward to this for a week now at least, so I’m looking forward to our time together.

Ari Whitten: To get us started, I would love for you to just talk a bit about how this all started. How did the healing frequency music project come about? How did you discover and start to develop Wholetones?

Michael Tyrrell: Well, from a young age, I knew pretty much what I wanted to do, I wanted to play music. Right away, I would watch television as a kid, I watched Big Band and all the instruments, and I was captivated by them. I knew them all by name by the time I was like two years old. In that journey of discovery that, that’s pretty much what I was created to do, I also realized there was something that wasn’t right about the music. It’s kind of a bizarre statement to make as beautiful as music is, but something underneath just wasn’t quite right.

As I got older, it became more and more pronounced to me that as beautiful as music is and as powerful a vehicle of communication that it is, there was something not quite right with it. I played music, won a Grammy in ’86. I’ve had a lot of really good wins with music. Got a lot of, not only my own stuff, but a lot of production for other people that have done quite well. I didn’t really feel like I was hitting the purpose for me being here on the planet.

Why the tuner is calibrated to 440Hz and how that affects your health

I kept working with the idea that there was something wrong with music. One day I asked a question, a lot of great discoveries come from asking a question nobody can answer. If you look at Nikola Tesla’s work, for example, one of the other people I admire, they ask a question, or they ask some sort of a question that they needed an answer for and they didn’t rest till they got one. My question was simple, and it started in a music store, and I asked the guy behind the counter, “Why is the tuner that we use calibrated to 440Hz?

Meaning the note A is 440 Hz. He couldn’t answer my question, and about the next 80 or 90 guys couldn’t answer my question. I started realizing, this is probably really important, but I got to get an answer for it. I looked through history to see if that number or name was mentioned anywhere, and it was and in a nefarious unusual place, in Nazi Germany, a guy named Joseph Goebbels, used the frequency 440Hz and named it the German Radio Beat, and used it for his version of propaganda and mind control.

Because what was interesting that I wouldn’t have known as a kid is that it interrupts the circadian rhythm of the human body, which is very important especially when you try to sleep. If you can keep somebody sleepless in Seattle and interject all kinds of information, then you can more or less program someone, and dumb it down …

Ari Whitten: Sorry. When you say it interrupts circadian rhythm, does that mean it suppresses melatonin, like it prevents you from sleeping?

Michael Tyrrell: It does.

Ari Whitten: Interesting.

How Michael learned about 444Hz

Michael Tyrrell: In other words, if you notice some of the reports from not only some of the experiments, we won’t get into, but that particular frequency induces insomnia over time, very interesting. That’s when I knew that was tapping onto something that was probably the reason why music bothered me. What really did it and to hopefully answer your question, it’s a big one you ask me.

I took a trip to Israel with a really good friend of mine, and I was going there basically to proofread some of his work, and to basically just enjoy the land. When I got to Ben Gurion Airport with my friend Don from Nashville, he said something that kind of blew me away. I said, “So, we’re going to get a GPS and then we’re …” He goes, “Oh, no, we’re not going to get a GPS. We’re just going to get in the car and we’ll go where we’re supposed to go. That’s how it works.” I’m just kind of like, “All right.” Here we are in Israel, I don’t know where I am but we’re going to know where we are, and we’re going to drive there.

I said, “What are you feeling?” He said, “Well, head towards Jerusalem.” I started driving towards Jerusalem, and when we got closer, he said, “There’s a coffee house in Ben Yehuda Street, we’re supposed to go there.” I said, “Okay.” We went there and he said, “A friend of mine named Ruben [Duran 00:07:17] is going to meet us there.” I said, “Oh, so you told him that we’re going to be there and you set up?” He goes, “Oh no, he doesn’t even know we’re in Israel.” I said, “Well, does he live nearby?” He goes, “No, he lives two hours away in Tel Aviv.”

I thought, this is crazy, but I loved it. It was kind of heart thin, you don’t know what’s coming around the bend in the great Mississippi. We got to the coffee house, and as soon as we walked in Ari, I just loved the music and it was one guy, he was in the corner of the room, and he was just playing the piano. When I looked over at him, he just was staring a hole in my head and just kept laughing. He was just like headless, like he was a real jovial guy but it was almost eerie, he just kept looking at me. I kept looking back at him, but he just never stopped staring.

It got kind of awkward, so I closed my eyes and just listened to the music for a while, and I recognized some of the songs. They were American songs, some of them were worship songs. He was playing this stuff in a Hasidic coffee house. And like, why am I? What’s going on? And thinking about what Don said about some guy is going to meet us here from two hours away, and it was getting really surreal in a good way.

Then the guy comes up to the table and he says, “Hey, I think you’re a believer, aren’t you?” I said, “Yeah.” He said, “Well, I knew that that’s why I was smiling and staring at you, is that I knew that and I was just looking at you and your friend and there was so much light coming off of you.” He said, “I had an experience this morning, I felt like God wanted me to give away all of my life’s work.” I said, “Oh, well what’s your life’s work?” He said, “I’ve decoded the songs of King David, and I have these manuscripts I’ve been working on, this music.”

I said, “What’s your name?” He said, “David.” I just start laughing, so like, King David? Anyway, I was like flabbergasted, I didn’t know what to say. He said, “So if you can hang around for my set till it’s over, the next set, I want to bring everything to you. I got it out in the backpack in the trunk.” I’m like, “Yeah,” mind … He goes back on stage, starts playing, and all of a sudden Don, my friend stands up and looks towards the door, and there is his friend at the door walking in.

I’m going, what? This guy Ruben comes to the table and Don says, “So what happened this morning?” He goes, “I woke up,” but he said, “God told me to get to this coffee house. It was very important.” Here’s a guy that lives two hours away, here is my friend Don, that I went there to proofread his new book. I’m sitting here staring at a guy named David that’s playing music that’s going to give me his life’s work [inaudible].

He comes back after his last set and brings his backpack in, hands me his manuscripts. One of them was typical tablature like you’d see if you were playing guitar or whatever.

Ari Whitten: Michael, I want to ask one question.

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah.

Ari Whitten: You’re in Israel, it’s a Hasidic Jew that’s playing this music, and he was playing Christian worship music?

Michael Tyrrell: No, he was not Hasidic, but he was playing in a Hasidic coffee house, so he’s getting away with murder.

Ari Whitten: I see, okay.

Michael Tyrrell: He’s getting away with murder here.

Ari Whitten: He was like typical Israeli secular Jew, but in a Hasidic coffee house playing Christian worship?

Michael Tyrrell: Right on, yes, absolutely.

Ari Whitten: Wow. That’s how you recognized it. You are Christian, correct?

Michael Tyrrell: Correct.

Ari Whitten: Okay.

Michael Tyrrell: It was all instrumental so there were no lyrics, so he’s getting away with it. It was almost comical, you know what I mean? It’s like, oh my gosh, if there were words here, they’d be throwing stones at you right now.

Ari Whitten: You know this, it’s funny, some of the most famous Christmas songs here in the United States, like I’m Dreaming of a White Christmas, and a lot of the most famous Christmas like celebration times are actually written by Jews for some reason.

Michael Tyrrell: I know.

Ari Whitten: It’s this bizarre thing, but …

Michael Tyrrell: Like O Come, O Come Emmanuel, one of my favorite. By the way, nice blog, I didn’t tell you, we have a Christmas out one too.

Ari Whitten: Nice.

Michael Tyrrell: Anyway, back to the story, yes, you’re a hundred percent correct. He was a guy that just was playing all of these worship songs and I recognized the melody and I’m thinking, oh my gosh, and that’s another reason probably why he was giggling, ’cause he thought, he probably knows what I’m doing right now. If this only had words. When I looked at the music that he gave me, the first song was just tablature. It was like predictable chords and nothing new that we haven’t seen in any music book here in America.

The second set of manuscripts was what I would call intervallic design or like what we would call Solfege, or just there were intervals of … It was more like hieroglyphics, but intervals of lines, and so you would need to know what the tone was, and then you would teach your son that melody, and then it would kind of go on for generations and generations. It was purely melodic, no polyphony, no chords, obviously just like first language when we’re kids and we learn, (singing). You’ll never forget, I don’t care how old you get. You heard that, you’ll never forget it. You can probably hit the pitch pipe and nail it. That’s how they taught Solfege to the little kids.

The father would teach the son, then in turn he teaches children, much like David taught Solomon and yada, yada, yada. Anyway, I’m looking at the one and I’m thinking, nothing too exciting about that, but this is very captivating. Thanked David, gave him a hug, then we went to our respective Christian quarter and had dinner and whatever. Fast forward, I got home and I played the tablature and I didn’t feel anything, I didn’t feel any, I was just okay, and I looked at the intervallic design and I couldn’t really figure it out yet, so I just put it in my file cabinet, went on with my life.

Two years went by, and one day I woke up and I remember I was getting ready to go in the office, and this thought came into my mind about the number 222. I was just thinking, why is that stuck in my head. I remembered there was a little bible sitting on my desk, and I walked there and said, “If there’s anything about David on page 222 in the bible, I’m going to freak out.”

Of course, for your listeners, depending on what translation, what size print, all the page numbers would be different. In this particular translation, a thin-line NIV I had, I turned to page 222 and it was a genealogy, and the last name on the page was David. I went, “You got to be kidding me.” Wait a minute, it can’t be that, and I just started weeping. I thought, oh my God, if I double 222 that’s 444 that’s four sense higher than, that’s what I always believed about David, ’cause David used stronger wood when he built his canoe, because he needed higher tensile strength, because oh my God, four sense, that would just about do it.

I thought, well, I’ll try it, I’ll try calibrating all my stuff to 444 and see what happens. Then after I tuned, I went back to the tablature and played it, and my hair was standing up, kind of like it is now. My hair was standing up and I’m like, “There’s no way that four sense is the difference.” I thought, it’s still an A though. That’s when I started studying about other countries. Like I went on this trip to Colombia, brought my guitar and my tuner. Tuned perfectly to my guitar, they tuned perfectly to their tuner, we were horribly out of tune with each other.

Well, guess what, they don’t calibrate to 440, and all the countries with the exception of United States and Canada, for a very good reason, that I found out later on that during war time, that this Joseph Goebbels guy thought it would be great if he could convince 15 nations to change their tuning, and it was unilateral, what they would call standard tuning. But only two countries actually bought into it, it was U.S. and Canada, but they call it standard tuning, but actually it’s not the standard tuning.

The distinction between 440Hz and 444Hz tuning

Ari Whitten: Real quick. For me and probably other people like me who are not musically inclined, what’s the distinction between these numbers? One, the standard tuning is 444, is that correct? In your talk is one is 444 and one is 440, is that right?

Michael Tyrrell: Correct. In other words, if you got the music store in the US today and you buy a tuner, it will automatically be calibrated to 440, which real simple means how many times a vibrating body vibrates in one second, 440 times. What I proposed was that if you raise that to 444Hz, and changed that tuning center just four sense, that it will shift it from actually being offensive to the circadian rhythm and to the body on a cellular level and do just the opposite.

Well, through studies we realized that yes, it does that, but Ari, this was the best part for me, was when I made that shift, the first thing I noticed is that my guitars stayed in tune all the time. It was almost like it was waiting for it. I would sing and my voice, it would never go out. I could sing three hours straight, nothing, no horses. When I started realizing tension-wise that it’s a balanced, and it’s a harmonically stable frequency, when I started looking into the math of it, I went, this sounds really familiar.

Then I realized how everything as far as the skin of Pythagoras or Pythagorean Theorem that everything should work of off three, six or a nine, and all these were not only related by musical notes, but they’re also related by geometry. All of these frequencies work together. The next thing I had to figure out was, okay, I think I got something here, but why is four sense making such a big difference? Here is the fun part. Back in the day when I was a kid, and I’m older than you but we had FM radio that was analog.

If you hit that dial at all, you’d go from perfect stereo to like this, you’d go from signal to noise. Just for the smallest vibration of that knob. Immediately, your listeners have to understand that when we’re talking about frequency, we’re talking about an extremely sensitive bandwidth. So 00.1% would be noticeable in frequency. That’s why if we use like Rife machines, laser probes, any type of healing modality that has to do with frequency, the adjustments are micro-adjustments. I’ve got like thousands of them in the book that I’m working on now.

My point is so four entire sense is a huge real estate, in the body it could be the difference between the top of your head and the sole of your foot. It’s like that broad. But you think four sense can’t make that much difference. Well, it made all of the difference. I found that as I started moving into the other six frequencies on the first project, that each one of them affected the body in a different way.

For example, you and I, we share a heart but your heart atomically and my heart atomically probably weighs different, plus minus, percentage of an ounce. I wanted to find frequencies that could affect everybody. In order to do that, you find the bandwidth for the human heart, how you vibrate a human heart of typical size, and then you oscillate it. You [inaudible] just gently through that frequency band. You’re hitting everybody’s heart, or you’re hitting everybody’s lungs, or hitting everybody’s [inaudible].

That’s how everything really got started. I may get into the minutia of how all, but that was basically how it started, is I just realized there’s a whole lot more to this if I could set up a frequency as an under-alignment or a drone and create music over the top of it. The drone is the medicine, the music is the spoonful of sugar that helps that medicine go down.

Ari Whitten: Got you. You got to stop using that analogy though now that sugar is really demonized and everybody hates sugar. I think you need to come up with a different one.

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah, a spoonful of Stevia helps.

How the different tuning frequencies work

Ari Whitten: There you go. Real quick, I have a specific question and then I kind of want to go broad for a second. The specific question is these other frequencies that you found, like for example, I have my Wholetones CDs that you have 396 and 417, 444, 528 and so on, are these like standard numbers? Were they musical tuning that correspond to other notes and are tuning forks made at these specific frequencies, or are there also differences in these frequencies compared to like standard musical notes of other guys?

Michael Tyrrell: That’s the best question of the day. Yes, and here is the difference. If you tune around A equals 444, then naturally you’ve shifted the entire spectrum. We’ve changed, in other words, forget all the other tunings that you’ve worked with before, like Middle C at the piano, I’ll still have a C, but it’s going to be four sense higher too. If you have a piano tuner come and say, “Hey listen, this guy wants me to tune my piano to A equals 444.”

What he’ll do is calibrate the strong tuner to 444, then it will tune your entire piano, so all of the notes, you’ll still play the same, you won’t change your fingerings or anything, but the whole piano will be shifted up four senses.

Ari Whitten: Got you, wow, fascinating.

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah.

Ari Whitten: Wow, okay. Now I want to go broad and I’ll do a little bit of like intro here of myself, and then I’ll have you take it from there, ’cause I think I’m coming at this from a little bit different angle than you.

Michael Tyrrell: Okay.

Ari Whitten: I know a little bit about sound and health. But the angle that I’ve taken to it is exploring science mainly around noise pollution. This is actually kind of a fascinating thing, because most people don’t think of sound as a factor in their health at all. It’s never mentioned. People will talk about get sleep and do exercise, and eat well and lower your stress levels and stuff like that. But nobody ever seems to really mention sound as a significant factor in health.

Yet, there’s actually this huge body of scientific literature talking about all kinds of negative effects of noise pollution on human health. We know that it has all kinds of different impacts on neurotransmitters, on hormones, on various aspects of cell function, on levels of inflammation, on sleep quality and sleep duration and how fast you fall asleep. All of these things have actually been measured. There’s this huge body of literature that no one really ever talks about.

That’s the body of literature that I know about, so I come at this and I already know sound has a huge impact on human health. Now, you’re coming at it from this entirely different angle, where you’re looking at how different frequencies don’t harm health, but how different frequencies can actually bolster human health. That’s kind of my broad intro of the landscape, and I would love if you could just talk a bit about like how does sound actually relate to human health, and what’s kind of the history here.

Michael Tyrrell: Wonderful. Well, again, because your listeners are probably varied in whatever their spiritual belief is, I can simply say that we know one thing for sure, that the power of life and death is in the tongue, the vibratory member that lives between our gums. You know how powerful that is no matter how strong of a man you or I might be, there’s obviously in times, usually somebody that means a lot to us, they can say something that can just take the lives out from under you.

The one little thing. It was like, oh, they got me. It’s amazing that really what got you was the frequency of that word. People don’t understand how that works, so with that being said, there is nefarious uses of frequency, and there’s positive uses for frequency. We are surrounded with frequency of all sorts, not only sound. What you’re saying to me, I understand a hundred percent.

But open the lungs even further, gamma ray, infrared, EMF, I know we can go on, not just audio but light frequencies are also nefarious, and so is carriers of frequencies can be very nefarious, and cause a lot of harm. One of the biggest studies now is just how much radiation and how much EMF there is actually in our homes today, which I’ve been working on now for years. But my point is, where I’ve kind of come with this is realizing there’s a couple interesting components. One, did you ever see the movie Major Payne years ago? Do you remember that with The Wayans?

Ari Whitten: With, yeah, Damon Wayan, [crosstalk].

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah, there was one scene that set it all, one of his soldiers gets shot in the leg and his laying on his back and he’s going, “Major Payne, my leg, my leg, my leg.” He comes and goes, “What’s wrong with your leg?” “My leg, they shot my leg.” He takes his hand and he breaks his finger. He goes, “My finger, my finger.” “How’s your leg?” The same thing happens with frequency. It’s just like anything else. The quickest way to purify polluted water is to keep pouring as much pure water into it as you can.

Same thing with the law of displacement, with frequency, if I keep bathing something that has other frequencies in it, chances are I’m going to mask those frequencies and bring something balanced and good into that situation. I’ve watched it time and time again. My way of dealing with sound pollution is my introducing light frequencies that have the science behind them to actually bring some displacement to some of that negative job that’s going out there.

How high frequencies cancel out low frequencies

Ari Whitten: You know that’s a really fascinating concept that I haven’t heard before, and I was actually wondering about this in relation to noise pollution specifically, like if you live in a home where let’s say, you have lots of freeway noise, where cars driving by, like motorcycles and trucks driving by every so often. If you, as some people do, if you put in like a little waterfall, like a fountain or something outside your bedroom so that it masks the road noise with the sound of trickling water, would …

I actually don’t know the answers to this, I was wondering, would that … Even if that’s the predominant thing that you’re hearing, would that actually cancel out the road noise? Or are the frequencies of the road noise still there and affecting you negatively, and now you’re just adding another frequency on top of it? Does it really cancel out or are they added?

Michael Tyrrell: This is my favorite interview so far. I’m loving those, ’cause of where your head space is at. Remember this, there’s only one thing in nature that actually exhibits all of the sonic frequencies at the same time, Niagara Falls, believe it or not.

Ari Whitten: Really?

Michael Tyrrell: All the frequencies are in, if you take a catabolic microphone to the base of Niagara Falls and capture that, you’ve captured all of the frequencies there is in the audio realm. It’s the only thing that does that.

Ari Whitten: Wow.

Michael Tyrrell: That being said, you said waterfall, I said, “I love this guy.” The truth of it is yes, the brain loves the pattern. Your brain latches on to pattern. If you have like, just like the guys that have this … Something I work with a lot is occupationally derived tinnitus. Like a guy that works at jack hummer, or a guy that lands planes on the tarmac. You have what, this constant identical frequencies. The identical frequency of the jack hummer, the identical frequency of breaking through concrete. The identical frequency of plus-minus 125 plus DBs of jet ancient sound.

You take those guys and they’re losing their minds, they can’t sleep anymore because, they always hear all of these frequencies. I started getting frustrated with that, ’cause I thought, yeah, Ginkgo Biloba, it helps a little bit. There are ways to help with circulation, it helps a little bit. There are certain bioflavonoids that help a little bit. Okay, great, I’m all for that. But how can I get rid of this? While I was thinking about how I can get rid of this, I created Wholetones, not thinking. One of my really good friends, Robby Besner, he makes a great sauna called Therasage, it’s what I use it here at the house. It’s infrared tent.

He met me through two or three other people anyway, so he said, “I want to listen to your music.” I gave him my phone and he plugged in his little earbuds. All of a sudden, tears are running down his eyes. I’m thinking, done nothing there. He said, “It’s gone.” I said, “What’s gone?” “My tinnitus went away.” I said, “What were you listening to?” He said, “The second one.” I said, “417, right?” While 417 is very close to that ring in your ear. This is a theory, I’m not diagnosing, I’m not claiming to heal anything. I am saying this though, you mentioned feedback.

A feedback loop on stage in a musical way, all it is, it’s a speaker that’s too close to the proximity of a microphone capsule. That starts this runaway sound that and it just, as the amplitude grows, it gets stronger and stronger and stronger. In the same way, when we tinnitus or when we have TMJ or stuff that works in here, it’s usually occupational. What happens is your optic nerve, it kind of sets up like a feedback loop, and you can hear it all behind your ear, in your ear, all through here. You can adjust it here.

What’s interesting is that when these people start listening to 417, the tinnitus goes away. I believe in my, again, this is theoretical, but I believe that we’ve done is exactly what you were thinking. Is that I think if you introduce something long enough that’s within that proximity, that it picks that one up and loses the other one. I don’t believe that it’s always like you’re just, you’re not just masking sometimes, sometimes you replace it.

Ari Whitten: Wow.

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah.

Ari Whitten: That’s fascinating and it resonates with my experience because …

Michael Tyrrell: No pun intended, sorry.

Ari Whitten: Yes, I didn’t even realize that. Nice way to pick up on that. Yeah, if I play some soothing music, or even just white noise like from a fan in a room that makes it so you don’t hear the noise pollution, it does seem to cancel it out.

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah.

Ari Whitten: Yeah.

Michael Tyrrell: Here’s a cool thing too, is that some fans, you probably think I’m nuts but that’s okay, I test fans and I’ve actually found some manufacturers have fans that actually will produce some of the same Hertz as my Wholetones stuff.

Ari Whitten: That’s fascinating. I’ve [crosstalk] thought about that, like is the specific frequency of the fan actually a negative or a positive frequency?

Michael Tyrrell: It can’t be, I’ve tested both, I’ve tested a couple of them. But one of them hit my high range, the 852, and I love this fan. It’s like rusty, I don’t care, I’m never going to lose this fan.

Ari Whitten: I was going to say, I was hoping it was like some new fan that I could purchase, ’cause I’d be …

Michael Tyrrell: I’ll find the company, it’s still available. It’s very inexpensive, and it’s actually the type of fan you’d put on a desk or a small place, but it makes just the right amount of noise to sleep. It perfectly. It nails my frequency analyzer 12 o’clock on 852.

Ari Whitten: Wow.

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah.

Ari Whitten: I’m going to have to get one of those fans for my bed [crosstalk].

How to figure out what frequency your devices emit

Michael Tyrrell: Here is something you can do and your listeners can do, there’s an app that’s a frequency analyzer that works really good. There’s another one called Pano Tuner. They’re free apps. You can go to like Best Buys or somewhere where they have a bunch of fans and just test each one of them.

Ari Whitten: Wow.

Michael Tyrrell: You can know what the frequency of the fan is with your app, and then you just buy the one that actually is one of the healing frequencies.

Ari Whitten: Okay, and I should use these frequencies as my guide for [crosstalk 00:31:04] frequencies.

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah, it’s kind of like a fan hack for all your friends. That’s like the easy way to find a decent fan for you, because the same thing can be true for motor [inaudible 00:31:12]. Look what we just found out the last three years with this green energy, and those big giant hydro-electronic fans that they’ve been putting around that are green energy.

Ari Whitten: Yeah.

Michael Tyrrell: They’re emitting such bad frequencies that it’s running wildlife off, it’s changing the whole ecology of the area. People are having migraine headaches, ’cause it’s emitting a very horrible frequency. Bad engineering.

Ari Whitten: Wow. They should start making ones with some good frequencies.

Michael Tyrrell: Can you imagine?

Ari Whitten: Maybe that actually generate energy and have some positive effects on human physiology.

Michael Tyrrell: No, it actually could. I mean, if you’re going to be eco-friendly, we have to be all eco-friendly.

Ari Whitten: To ourselves as well, yeah.

Michael Tyrrell: Right, or bio-friendly.

How Wholetones sound healing frequencies benefit human physiology

Ari Whitten: Yeah. Give me a little overview of what are some of the benefits to human physiology that have been discovered and been associated with different frequencies? How does sound actually affect us? What is it doing to us?

Michael Tyrrell: Great, great question again. First of, there’s a lot of research now, thank goodness. When I started, there wasn’t so much. Then of course, there’s never enough, but to substantiate such claims. I will say that you can Google these frequencies and you’ll find a lot of people. But you can also go to my website if you’d like to,, for example, or you’ll direct people at the end as well.

You can look through testimonials yourself and see, ’cause they’re very explicit and we don’t generate them, they generate them. We get these sent to us and then get permission. We don’t ask for testimonials, we get them pouring in all the time. The point being, there are certain things right away that the 90 percentile, which is relaxation, peace and stress dissipating. If you can get rid of stress in your life, you’re well on the road to recovery.

Your body is pretty intuitive, in that if we could get it to the place where it could actually be in a state of homeostasis, then it would begin healing itself, if we could ever get there. That’s the first and foremost thing. Then it breaks into some pretty severe and awesome claims from many, many, many things. I just got one while we’re talking, I’ll pull it up, it just came in while we were yucking here a few minutes ago. I’m still kind of in shock.

“I was a skeptic when my aunt suggested this. She had several sets and then sent us one. Well, I have an autistic child who is hell bent forever, 24/7, so you can imagine how sleep-deprived we are. My son now sleeps through the night, and I often find him now in his room quietly sitting in a corner reading a book or playing quietly.

Ari Whitten: Wow.

Michael Tyrrell: It really works Michael, Wholetones works. I’m a believer. The doctors have now lowered my stress level and I’m sleeping better too. I really appreciate my aunt [Manny] for turning me onto you and Wholetones.” It just came in while we’re … We get hundreds, thousands of these daily from … Somebody goes, “Well, so are you saying Wholetones cures autism?” No, I’m not saying that.

I’m saying that it can definitely put you into a place where if you have an autistic child, life is going to get a lot better in that house, because they stop stemming, they stop beating their heads against the wall, they stop a lot of that aggressive type behavior, and they get pieced up. That in itself is worth the price of admission, but the rest of it is I would say instead of me broadcasting this and getting possible trouble for making claims, it’d be better if they just go read them on the website.

I can tell you that not only do humans benefit from this, but some of the stuff I have been showing and will happily share with you this week if you want to post them is some in-depth studies with dogs and cats. Including dogs that have zero hope, like stage four cancer dogs, and watching … My favorite thing is why I like to work with animals is that there’s no such thing as a double blinder placebo type with them, it either works or it doesn’t. They’re not going to figure out that you’re trying to fake them out.

Ari Whitten: Yes.

Michael Tyrrell: It either works or it doesn’t work. Ari, the first thing I did was use dark field microscopy real time. Bring the dog in, the cat, lethargic, sick, stage four, tumors. Draw the blood, show that blood. Put Wholetones on for 10 minutes on 396Hz. Redraw the blood, show the blood. Game over. It’s so absolutely outstanding that when you look at it, you just go. It works on a cellular level.

This week, Dr. Merlin Seagull, the holistic vet that I’m just crazy about, that’s been testing now three weeks in a row, had a dog in sedation, it was going into surgery and tested under sedation. She didn’t pick up on this. I’m like you, I’m thinking, the dog’s asleep and listening to the music and the blood changed while the dog was asleep? That’s what we’re after. We can play this while we’re sleeping and still benefit when we wake up, because our cells are working through the night too, just ’cause we’re sleeping.

I just had the luxury and the blessing of spending a few days with Mehmet Oz, Dr. Oz in New York and showed him some of this research, and he was completely flabbergasted. He was like, “There’s no way you can fake this.” That’s a real response. The blood cells can’t unroot themselves unless something happens.

Ari Whitten: Yeah.

Michael Tyrrell: I’ll send you some of that later on this week so you can look at some it.

Ari Whitten: Wonderful. Yeah, I would love to see that. Are there any other notable things that this is doing to our health? Are there any studies looking at brain function or different areas of brain activation or …

Michael Tyrrell: Another great, actually right now, as we speak, there are two different places that are doing tests. One is a 3D holographic study of the brain. Like this is your brain on Wholetones. This is your brain without Wholetones to see what parts of the hemispheres light up when which part of the music comes on. I should have those results probably in the next two weeks or so.

Ari Whitten: Awesome.

Michael Tyrrell: We’ve done other ones before. The best thing we’ve had was outside of our studies, which was with a couple of, Fort Brown, Fort Bragg and Fort Lewis military installations, where they had guys that came back from a tour in Iraq or Afghanistan that had TBIs and PTSD. Watching those guys, they try drugs which is really a bummer at first, ’cause it’s just the wrong approach for these guys. It just puts them deeper down. A lot of people get mad at me for saying that, but I’m just saying that’s not the way to treat someone that comes back from.

You don’t want to suppress them, anything, you want to get them to feel something. They’re already suppressed. When I started giving Wholetones away, I got phone calls from wives and people in the military saying, “You gave me my husband back. He came in at 3 o’clock in the morning and kissed me on the face and told me he loved me. He’s been sitting catatonic three months and I put the music on and …” Yeah, people wake up. I’ve seen a lot of people come back around.

My next study I’m working on now is in a whole another range which is the ultrasound range and with Alzheimer’s, but I haven’t created anything and I’m still in that phase of working that frequency range right now, to see what we can do about waking up some of our friends that are struggling with Alzheimer’s and dementia. No, we get a lot of … Like I said, it’s all there on our website. We get a whole lot of people with PTSD, TBIs, a lot of kids with autism. There’s a school of autism in Atlanta, Georgia, now that uses this stuff in the toolbox every day.

It’s on the loud speakers all day long while the kids are there, and they’re not aggressive anymore. They don’t beat themselves up. They don’t hit themselves anymore. It’s awesome.

Ari Whitten: Wonderful. Yeah. It’s weird we’re having this conversation kind of on all this science and the conceptual aspect of how sounds affect human physiology. To some degree, some of these are really like common sense and common experience. Like everybody knows that they can turn on a good song that they love and all of a sudden, they feel happy, or they feel energetic, and they want to dance and they want to move. It changes their mood and it can make you feel more confident or like excited.

It has this instant impact on us in so many ways to listen to a piece of sounds that we enjoy. It’s just you can know nothing about the science of how sound affects human physiology and yet have this experience of sound profoundly influencing your physiology and brain function.

Pythagoras and music

Michael Tyrrell: It’s amazing to me that some of the things that we think are so cutting edge and so … People go, it’s just like and you don’t know how old this really is. It goes back to the original plan of creation, but one thing that most people don’t know that I found fascinating, hopefully you will too, one of my favorite people besides Tesla was also a guy named Pythagoras. I mentioned him earlier, and what we knew about Pythagoras in school was that he was kind of like the godfather of geometry. He was like the Yoda of mathematics.

We put him in this box and we say, “Okay, that’s what this guy is.” Well, I researched his life for a year, and I found out that mathematics to him was a small component of his love and passion or what he was best at, he was a musician.

Ari Whitten: Wow.

Michael Tyrrell: He created his own instrument. Here is where it gets fun, remember I talked about everything is a frequency and everything has a resonate frequency, if we can resonate a frequency, healing can take place. It is spontaneous healing can take place. Instead of will, it can. His idea was he was going to create this instrument. He created an instrument Ari, that was 6′ long, one side of it was nothing but drawn strings that he played. The other side was a couch that his disciples laid down on.

Think about it. One of his disciples, just in case there’s any naysayers was Plato. Plato was a follower of Pythagoras, that’s … When they were sick physically, when they had stress or emotional issues as he said, he would take them onto what he called the soul adjustment. The soul meaning, body, soul, spirit and then of course, that will emotion. He would have them lay down on the couch and he would play these strings underneath them, and resonate this whole place where they were laying down.

I don’t know how long he did that, but he reported that after he did that, they would go to sleep, they’d fall asleep and wake up in the morning and feel a hundred percent. Even if it was a cold, flu malady, whatever. I didn’t know that when I started all of these, not a bit. Two years in, I’m going, you got to be kidding me. Pythagoras was doing this back then, he was resonating people with the monochord. He created his own instrument to do it.

David created his own version of the quinoa. There was nobody else. He created his own instruments. There was nothing at the time that quite did it for him. He had to make his own. This guy created his own instrument and uses it for his disciples to bring peace to them. Mind-boggling.

Ari Whitten: Wow.

Michael Tyrrell: That’s not new, it’s just rediscovering some ancient worlds and digging them up again.

The truth about Solfeggio frequencies, tuning forks, and Tibetan singing bowls

Ari Whitten: Yeah, yeah, fascinating stuff. I have a few specific questions for you just that I’m curious about. Have you looked into a few things. One is like I’ve heard claims around like Solfeggio frequencies. I’m curious to hear your thoughts on that. Then tuning forks, I’m curious to know if tuning forks frequencies match up with your frequencies? Bowls, like Tibetan singing bowls and crystal bowls and things like that.

Michael Tyrrell: All right. Let’s start there.

Ari Whitten: A few different questions there, but you can take it where you want to take it.

Michael Tyrrell: No problem. First of all, Solfeggio or Solfege means sight singing. The intervallic manuscript I told you about I got in Israel was Solfege. Solfege is the Italian name for sight singing or singing by intervals. This is a great question. I just want to make sure I answer all three components of it, so you might have to remind me of each one again. The Solfeggio tones as we know them as are exactly the same ones with the exception of the tuning center 444, that you’ve probably seen published before.

One of the differences is and I don’t mind telling your listeners because this is kind of a live without a net. The problem I had with the Solfege tones to be quite frank with you, I loved Leonard Horowitz work, Anthony [Puleos 00:44:27] work. When I actually heard the references on YouTube of this, it was miserable. Miserable meaning, when I was little, the TV would go off at one o’clock in the morning, you’d get the test tone, no more shows, sorry kids, TV’s over. You’d hear, and like after 60 seconds, I’m turning the TV off. It was like the off button.

Ari Whitten: Yeah.

Michael Tyrrell: I go on YouTube, and I thought, wow, they got Solfeggio tones in here. I want to go listen to that. It’s like a hour and six seconds. I get about three seconds, ’cause they used a … What they used is they used a frequency tone generator, a synthetic generator to create a sign wave sound. Same thing that, it doesn’t even matter if it’s good, it will drive you mad. Nobody can listen to that. I had this huge problem Ari, I want to bring healing frequencies to the world.

Got a problem, the problem is that, that’s not going to work. Nobody’s going to sit here long enough to listen to that to do them any good at all. I had to recreate those frequencies in a way that not only more beautiful, but addictive, and they really are.

Ari Whitten: Yeah, yeah.

Michael Tyrrell: I used crystal, lead crystal and I incrementally filled each one with water with a dropper, until when I got the rim to start singing, that bowl started singing, then I would sample that when it hit 12 o’clock, each one of them. Then I used a real string quartet from the Nashville Symphony, real wood, real strings, real bows, real hands, not synthetic junk, and put that on the other side and put those together, and that’s how I get my tones.

Secondly, you’re next question about the Tibetan bowls, I got to tell you that out of the last 15 times that I’ve run into people that have bowls, most of them are synced up to my frequencies. I was shocked. I was just with a guy at this, I think it was called The Apple Seed Convention. It was a health and wellness thing done here in West Palm. I went there and a guy has this bowls and I said, “You know what frequency that is?” “I don’t have any idea.” “So let me tell you.”

Then he did another one. “Do you know what that is?” “No.” “Let me tell you.” Then I started explaining to him what that meant, and he’s just weeping. I said, “You just knew this felt good, but you didn’t know why it felt good. Now you can tell your people what they’re getting through that.” Then we talk about tuning forks. Tuning forks are really interesting, and I’ll tell you why. Tuning forks have one component that I really like about them, which is you can use them as far as the sacral type of attachment.

Meaning that they resonate and you touch to your cranium and you can feel it very neat. Here’s the thing though, to say tuning forks, tuning forks come in all kinds of frequencies. They have them in 440, they have them in 441, 444, they have all, they have the solfeggio. There’s a couple of really great companies that are making my frequencies with tuning forks as well.

Here’s the downside of the tuning forks. It’s like all of us when we come to the point where we realize that as healers all we’re offering is another piece of the toolbox. I never tell anyone, even though it says Wholetones, and people are having … I never sit there and I’m arrogant and go, “If you have this, then that’s all you need.” I don’t know what everyone needs. Everybody is like a snowflake. We’re all different. I’m honored that people …

Ari Whitten: My mum was right is what you’re saying, she told me that I was a special snowflake.

Michael Tyrrell: She was right. She was very right. There’s not another one like you, and that’s why life is so beautiful.

Ari Whitten: I’ve been waiting for somebody besides my mum to tell me that my whole life.

Michael Tyrrell: What you know what’s amazing about it though, is that when we find each other, we realize how true that is, when we get in touch with each other you realize Ari is right. You’re running in a lane I can’t run in, but man, do I ever think that’s important. I stay in mine, you stay in yours, all of us line up together. I’m finding crazy, amazing people out there doing amazing things. I don’t want to do what they do, I can’t do what they do. But they can’t do what I do. If we all keep doing this, the world is going to change.

Ari Whitten: Yeah.

Michael Tyrrell: The tuning fork thing it’s cool. It’s cool because like I said, I can do that with my music player too, but here is my problem with the tuning fork. First of all, you can injure them, meaning you can transport them, drop them and they will change frequency just a little bit. You can have them re-hum, they work great. The downside for me is how wrong you can sense, ding. I mean, do you want to do that every … I just want to run that thing. [crosstalk].

I’ve found that so far at least with dogs and cats, I can’t say for people, but I have found that 10 minutes is all it takes to massively change the blood on a cellular level in a dog or a cat, 10 minutes of Wholetones. They all work. They all have their little things that they do very well. I love all of them. Acupuncture, if someone knows what they’re doing, can really help you. Again, we’re all just pieces of a toolbox.

However, I like the ability of having each one of these species is 22 minutes and 22 seconds, and all of the sleep project is about 30 minutes. A massage therapist absolutely hit it up because they can play one frequency over somebody for 30 minutes, and then if they want an hour massage, they just hit the button and they’ve got another 30 minutes. They’re incrementally longer than …

A tuning fork can probably go maybe 60 seconds max if it’s a big tuning fork. Then it start and then you got to strike it again. Unless you have that uninterrupted drone frequency for half an hour.

The difference between synthetically generated and live frequencies

Ari Whitten: Fascinating. You kind of alluded to something a couple of minutes ago that I want to come back to briefly. Forgive my lack of vocabulary to explain this in the right way, but something to the effect of the quality of the sound grades are different when you’re talking about something like synthetically generated or like acoustic. Like if somebody is sitting next to you with a guitar, for example, the frequencies are different in some way, than if you have just like a speaker of synthetically generated guitar music. Is that accurate to say?

Michael Tyrrell: Well, I think even more is it’s better if you have … Let me clarify ’cause it’s a very interesting and it’s kind of a psycho-acoustic explanation of something. We’re talking about vibratory bodies, and then we’re talking about what the ear can actually really hear between the 20000Hz and 20000KHz, which is our small real estate of hearing, as opposed to dogs, dolphins, elephants, them.

This is really interesting because analog versus digital, for example, big topic. What we find, look what’s happening with iTunes. In September 2019, that’s the end of them selling MP3s. Now they’re going to straight streaming. We went from 12′ inch vinyl, to 8-track tapes and cassettes, well, actually not true, 12′ real to real, 8-track cassette, ferric oxide CR02, and then on to compact disk, which for me I got to just say is an audio file, I know how to do things with compact.

Compact disk to me was the best of all worlds because it’s still like the problem was storage. Everybody is all storage crazy. They don’t want a proper place for records. I would have vinyl now because the new, and I will be putting Wholetones on vinyl for all the people that are freaking out asking me about it, yes, because final United States got smart and opened up some record processing plants this year again, instead of buying everything from Germany, where we send all of our machines.

The new turntables have laser beam needles, no degradation of the disc whatsoever, reads them 100% accurate, no degradation, so you don’t, there’s no scratching records anymore. I will go back to that because I like that. With that being said, even after CD, CD is still a good quality. When you start breaking down the truncating MP3s and then truncating MP3 to live-streaming, you’ve taken something really big and you’ve made it really small.

We’re still finding great response from people that are doing the digital downloads and all that. What I was mentioning to you that’s a bigger problem for me is the difference between taking a frequency from a crystal glass as opposed to a machine that’s a computer that just makes a sound wave noise. They used to call them test on operators. People that would like create those frequencies and they would check audio equipment with it.

Your ear doesn’t like that kind of approach. I had to find a way to organically create the frequency to where you would actually like it, and it wouldn’t be … Really the biggest problem for me is organic versus artificial or synthetic. Like if I play my guitar and you’re sitting right in front me, and I put that in your face, you’re going to feel air. You’re going to feel air coming out of the sound hole. You’re going to say, “Wow, that wave is moving.”

If I use a synthesizer to do that, and or, well, let’s even go, let’s take it another step further, let’s take a speaker ’cause I play guitar, let’s take a regular speaker, and let’s take a tube amplifier. When we play through that tube amplifier, the actual speaker cone is going in and out, and if you put your hand in front of the cone, you’re going to feel air. Now, take a solid state amp with the same speakers, it doesn’t move the driver. It simulates, it’s like a speaker simulator is what they call it. It simulates the sound if a driver was moving, but it’s actually not moving.

What happens is, here is a perfect example for your listeners. You have a solid state amp and a tube amp, and you’re on either side of a drummer. The drummer plays with the guy playing the tube amp, and the fullness of the sound, he’s like right with the drummer. In other words, you can’t hear the drums over the guitar, you can’t hear the guitar over the drums, it’s perfect. Now, the guy plays into the solid sate and plays with the drummer, the drummer is all over him, you can’t hear the guitar anymore ’cause the drummer is moving air acoustically. The other amp was moving air, push pull, these things aren’t moving any air.

When we have a device, that’s why I only use apps that are like that for measuring a frequency, not creating one. A lot of people on YouTube are using a machine to create frequency and yet nobody can listen. You go on there, let’s see how many people listen to it, you go, for how long, really? That’s the difference is that when we create something that we want to use for therapy, we have to make it where people are going to enjoy it enough to do it every day. You know that with how you train and what you do. Somehow you have to build something into it to make yourself do it every day.

Ari Whitten: Yeah, absolutely. The way that you incorporate all of that into Wholetones is that you actually take recordings of the right kind of wave lengths or frequencies of sound to begin with, and then … Or maybe [crosstalk].

Michael Tyrrell: I make them myself. In other words, you and me are in the recording studio right now. I say, “Okay, Ari, before I put the music on, I have to create the bed.” You’ll watch me, I’ll go into the room and I’ll take all those glasses, take the time to measure them with water, and each one of those I’ll record, for each frequency. I’ve got that track, so we’re done. We have seven of those tracks. Now, I’ll go back in with the Nashville strings and then I’ll say, “Okay, I just wrote this drone for you. I just want you to play this.”

I’ll get you to play it for about four minutes, then I’ll stack their parts and then I’ll create however long a bottom I need of that, then I’ll put the glass with that, and now I run that while I’m composing with the band over the top of that. I’ve recorded all of those parts, everything is live, everything’s real. That’s my frequency.

Wholetones the effects of the sound healing frequencies

Ari Whitten: Yeah. This is amazing stuff. I have to say on a personal note that I love it. I listen to it like I said in the sauna, when I’m meditating, things like that and it’s just beautiful, and I always come out feeling a lot better than I went in. But can you talk a bit about some of the specific frequencies and what they do, and there’s descriptions here on the CD, is that each frequency is kind of associated with particular things.

You don’t have to give a detailed analysis of all of this, but I’m curious if you can just kind of give people an idea of what kinds of effects are associated with some of these different frequencies.

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah, I can, I can’t talk too much about it anymore. Unfortunately, the government gets involved in a lot of this and they even told me what I can say and what I can’t say anymore. I have to be careful that I’m not prescribing as a musician, which is amazing. I’m not doctor. The Open Door, the interesting thing and to add clarity, the Open Door is the fast track or the first CD if you get the hard copy. It’s 396Hz. It’s called the Open Door for a reason, it’s the introduction to therapy healing.

Why does there have to be an opening frequency? Well, like I mentioned earlier, it doesn’t matter what modality you use. If you use like a laser probe or if you’re using a Rife machine or whatever, however you’re introducing frequency to the body, there’s always an opening frequency. There’s a reason. My reason was is that predominantly most people have issues with guilt and shame. They don’t think that they do, and it manifests like this Ari, I’m not worthy to be healed. That’s a bad intention.

I’m not worthy to be healed. That person is but I’m not. But we have to work with that or nothing’s going to happen. 396, the very first really neat emotional component of that is that it deals with guilt and shame, and it makes you love yourself, and it makes you feel like you’re worthy and that God loves you. That’s the crux of it. Then from then on, I can build a modality for you, but we got to get through that. We got to get through you looking in the mirror and start to like what you see on the other end.

The other part of it, is that it does have some components, again, I have to be really careful about that, but it has an effect on the blood, which we can see in vitro, kidney function, neurotransmission, that’s one of the ones I’m testing right now with the brain, because it lights it up. Won’t say too much more about that, but just the fact that I always tell people when they get the Wholetones set, always make sure you start with 396Hz, ’cause that opens the tight globe on the flower and then we can figure out what you need from there.

417, we talked about a little bit. I call it Desert Soldier. That’s the one that I’ve noticed time and time again just beats the fool out of procrastination, which I didn’t realize that component. The first thing I realized is that Forbes and Ink Magazine, Fortune 500, they were doing interviews saying CEOs are using this frequency, and they’re playing them in their offices. Their productivity is going through the roof, and they’re like not tired at three o’clock and they’re drinking less coffee. Why do you think that’s happening?

It’s either one thing I can tell you right now, is it just interrupts procrastination. If you’re one of those guys that says, “I’ll get around to it tomorrow.” Not worry, listen to this frequency, you won’t, you will go and get it done, you just will. I love it when I’m working out because on my schedule, I used to work out all the time, now, I hardly ever do. Sometimes I don’t want to, and I put that on it’s like boom, get the shoes, get the bag, get out of here. That’s one of the cool things.

Another thing I hear a lot about is what we talked about earlier, is just a crazy amount of people reporting that their tinnitus goes away listening to this one, and lower back problems. Pretty darn cool. I know that it’s really good for breaking negative cycles, whatever that might be and lethargy. If you want a little [inaudible] in the pants. 444, I think I’ve talked about quite a bit, that was just my tuning center. That’s kind of where our go to is. That’s how we tune our instruments now to that frequency, and one of the most peaceful frequencies I’ve ever come along.

Most people say, “I listen to it and I just fall asleep.” 528, probably the most steady, probably the most information your listeners can find on Google as far as 528Hz. Some people call it the love Hertz, love Hertz, sorry, that was a bad one. What I’ve noticed with it is that this one was one the tunes that supposedly if you have read about Solfege drones, there was two missing ones. There’s a lot, you can read my book, my book goes into great depths about it, you’ve already read it, of two that were, during Pope Gregory, the Greats rule in the Catholic church, he removed two tones that were integral most of the Solfege.

One of them 520, and it was called [foreign language] or the Miracle Frequency, because it actually has a connection to your DNA chain. Now, they’re doing research to find out that it actually in many cases has repaired broken DNA, which I find fascinating. The second part is they’re doing research now to find out if it can extend [Telomerase 01:01:52], which is life extension, which we all want. Fascinating! There’s also, you can Google how it works as far as on substance like water. Like one of the big oil spills a few years back the Gulf just unbelievable amounts of oil sediment particulate matter totally polluting seawater.

Animals covered with the junk. There’s some [Brainiac] Canadian guy that got out there with a boat and enough amplitude and at 528 frequency, and he cleared I think it was 1.2 cubic miles of water, to the point where it was like 96% pure of all oil just by sound. There’s so much here. That one is a biggie for me, 528, just because the name is Transformation, the color is green like the first sprit of grass that comes through the melting snow. All my poor friends up north in Minneapolis have had the longest winter ever.

That color is just transformational in that when a season changes and life comes in. The Bridge, crazy chord, 639Hz. This one, the behavioral component for this one is the most flabbergasting freaky thing. Let’s say you have two kids that are fighting over a toy in your living room. Your three year old and your five year old whatever, and they’re like, “That’s mine, that’s mine.” You put this on, they stop talking. Then all of a sudden the one kid hands the other kid the toy. It’s crazy.

I’ve seen in it, it’s kind of a secret, if I ever was feeling me and my wife are going to have a fight, I just throw that on and it stops it before it goes tornado. You know it’s like one of those little things that you find out. The behavioral component Ari is just it stops chaos in its tracks. I don’t know how, it just does. We use this one a lot, again, with kids with autism. They let this one play quite a bit at the Atlanta School of Autism, because it’s behavioral. Meaning, not only does it help them relax, but it helps them interact with each other in a more friendly capacity.

Then there’s 741. It gets to the point where past 741, I’ll talk about a different component. 741, for me was absolutely mind-boggling in that I actually had, I still, I’m ordained, so I have the capacity to marry and bury people still. I was asked to do this wedding in Texas in Houston. That morning, I woke and I’m all excited. We’re in this beauty, the ZaZa Hotel, it was a gorgeous place and really close, one of my best friends, it was his daughter, and I couldn’t wait to do the service.

Anyway, I woke up in the morning. There’s difference between having a stomachache and food poisoning. You know when you got food poisoning, ’cause you got the shakes and all the other junk that goes along with it. It’s like you got to be kidding me. It’s like 9.30, and I got to go at 12. Man, it’s game time. I’m like, I don’t know what to do. My wife looks at me and she goes, “Just 741 on.” She puts the frequency on in the room. I’m not kidding you, 20 minutes later, stomachache gone, I’m good, did the service, never had another issue with it.

Big deal with this one, fungal, bacterial and viral infection. Holy smokes! When you get that nasty cold and all that green guck and whatever, start playing this over time, and it definitely will cut down on the transit time of getting rid of that type of junk. Finally, 852, I mentioned that earlier. I had that friend of mine that is spot on 852. 852, I don’t even know how to attach any physiological component or emotional. I know that to me it’s purely spiritual. This is the one that I listen to and it makes me feel the difference between God and me, and love the difference.

And love the feeling of there being someone who’s in control, and a place I can go, and a lighthouse in the storm, and something that as much as love people, and as much as you and I would be great friends if we lived closer. We can be great friends and live away, but if lived closer, we’d probably hang. To know that there is someone that loves everyone and has the capacity to do something about it, just does something, it grounds me. For 852, whenever I play that, whenever we’ve run some of this on the air, the response like, sometimes one of my friends around California runs the response of people.

We hit that frequency and play it live on the radio. It’s like out of control, like the responses from people. Everything just lights up on the corner, “Oh my God, my whole body is tingling, what’s happening to me? I feel like God’s in the room.” I’ll just like, that’s my explanation too, that’s all I got for you on that on. That’s kind of a rough overview of the seven.

About Wholetones and how you can get a copy

Ari Whitten: Beautiful. Well, this has been absolutely fascinating stuff. Like I said, I’m personally a fan of this and I use this all the time. One of the things that we talked about before I started recording was I showed you this and I was like, “Hey, you know, I’ve had this for …” Jeez, I think I’ve had it for a year now, maybe a little over a year and that I love it, just to let you know that like, hey, I’m actually already familiar with your work, and I love what you’re doing.

Then you said to me, is that all you’ve got, like I have all these other stuff, and I didn’t even realize that you have a whole bunch of other [crosstalk] that I didn’t even know anything about. Can you talk a bit about some of these other things that you were showing me before …

Michael Tyrrell: I can.

Ari Whitten: … I started recording this.

Michael Tyrrell: Absolutely, well, of course, the one you have is the Frequency Healing Music Project, which is the original one. The seven healing tones that pretty much, I call the original now. That, when people purchase it, comes with a Heart Back book that I … Again, when you write something, it’s hard for you to say anything other than there’s a whole lot more that meets the eye to that book. There’s a whole lot in those pages, like crazy amount, but it’s demystified to the place where anybody can read it on a couple of legs of a flight, and feel really good, and explain about what they’re about to listen to.

Of course, we have the one I mentioned earlier which is called Chroma, which is when you add the light component I spoke of. When I said like the frequency transformation 528, that color of that, if we were to go continue up the chain of frequency until we get to the light component of that frequency, the matching frequency of that would be the color of green grass is the closest color. To be able to see what you’re listening to, there’s something there. There’s something about, and God said, “Let there be light and it was good.” He said something and then the light appeared.

It’s really special to be sitting in your living room and looking at a screen, and you’ve got like this unbelievable light, light strong enough that people use this Chroma as a grow light. If you’ve ever heard of Jordan Ruben, Jordan, some of his work, and [crosstalk] and get real nutrition. We’ve been friends forever, but he actually got the first free prototypes of this and was so flawed that he put plasma screens in his indoor growing lab in California at that time. He was growing microbacterium and herbs. He sent me pictures of just like a week after putting these tones on 24.

The [inaudible] mushrooms were like behemoths, like four times bigger. He actually wrote all about it, published it. I think he said a 60% more bioavailability, just by using the full spectrum light of Chroma and the music at the same time. My wife grows orchids and I could just tell you, her orchids pop all the time ’cause I leave that stuff on all of the time. That’s one that I really like. We also have two music players, meaning that everything you want in a box, in a very small box, about the size of … just a little bit bigger than an iPhone box. Comes with your charger, everything that you need.

There’s actually a small music player. It fits in your hand and it has an amplifier, a speaker, low EMF output, very low, almost im-perceivable, and all of the music that’s on there. We have a Wholetones to sleep, and Wholetones to go. One of them is the first seven. This is one like sonic Valium in a box. Hopefully, by the time that your listeners get to see this, we’ll have more, but right now we’re completely sold out. Obviously, when you have 60 million people in America that can’t sleep, it’s definitely the right thing for this time. Then I also have the sleep music on CD as well, three hours of that music, each ones.

Ari Whitten: What did you call it? Sonic Valium?

Michael Tyrrell: Sonic Valium.

Ari Whitten: That’s a great tagline, if you could get away with it for the FDA and …

Michael Tyrrell: I know.

Ari Whitten: … the FDC, that would be great to actually put on the box itself, sonic Valium in a box.

Michael Tyrrell: Wouldn’t that be great that they would, they’d tear me. They wouldn’t be able to deal with that one. I did tell you that one that Marty came up with, I loved is the one song on this Sleep Out and it’s called Angels all around. He said, “That’s the only song I’ve never heard the end in my life,” ’cause he cannot stay awake, it’s impossible. He’s tried, it’s 30 minutes long, and he gets about five minute mark and he’s out.

Ari Whitten: Yeah, well if that’s not a great testimonial, I don’t know what is. Well, this has been absolutely fascinating, Michael, thank you so much for coming on. It’s been an absolute pleasure. I know that we’re going to … you guys are going to give me a special link that I’m going to put on the page for this podcast. The page on my website’s going to be It’s going to be sound-healing, so like two words broken up by a dash. Then we’ll have a link on there where people can get a 10% discount on any of these products.

I’m super excited. I’m actually going to personally go out and buy these other ones that you mention, the sleep one and the Chroma, the color one as well to add to my collection. Thank you for letting me know about all these things that I didn’t even know about.

Michael Tyrrell: Well, the Wholetones to go, what’s funny is that a company that makes infrared saunas wants to put those in all their saunas, and the same way, that’s what I use. I just take the little can and put it in the pocket and like that’s it. I just listen to that in there. It’s fun and if you have the ability obviously to use the discs, with a disc player in your sauna, that’s like [premo]. I just take the Wholetones to go and get in the sauna and …

Ari Whitten: Nice. And that little speaker is high quality speaker. You get some good [crosstalk].

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah, you can fill up a pretty good sized room with that. I’m also working on a new one now, but I can’t tell you anything about it yet, it’s still in development.

Ari Whitten: Otherwise, you’d have to kill me.

Michael Tyrrell: Yeah, and I don’t want to do that. I like you too much.

Ari Whitten: All right Michael, this has been so much fun. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast and I hope everyone enjoyed this, I’m sure that everyone did. This has been absolutely great stuff. Thank you again and I hope to connect again with you in the near future.

Michael Tyrrell: Well, thanks for the love and all the great questions, and we will definitely connect.

Ari Whitten: Awesome man.

Michael Tyrrell: Thank you.

Ari Whitten: Great. Well, thank you again. Take care.

What Is Sound Healing?│How (Wholetones) Sound Healing Frequencies Affect Sleep, Fatigue, and Stress with Michael Tyrrell – Transcript

Why the tuner is calibrated to 440Hz and how that affects your health (2:34)
How Michael learned about 444Hz (3:56)
The distinction between 440Hz and 444Hz tuning (12:52)
How the different tuning frequencies work (16:53)
How high frequencies cancel out low frequencies (22:39)
How to figure out what frequency your devices emit (28:28)
How Wholetones sound healing frequencies benefit human physiology (29:50)
Pythagoras and music (38:12)
The truth about Solfeggio frequencies, tuning forks, and Tibetan singing bowls (40:58)
The difference between synthetically generated and live frequencies (47:54)
Wholetones the effects of the sound healing frequencies (54:32)
About Wholetones and how you can get a copy (1:04:30)


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